someone raised this book/film to me recently as scientific argument for intelligent design.
i have neither read it or seen it as a film (i hesitate to classify it as a documentary).
having done a little research it seems to be at the least be viewed as controversial by the scientific community.
Low res version here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmIc42oRjm8
i think i've seen it or something very similar when i was a believer, I cant remember anything specific as when it says what you think you want it to say your thinking abilities shut off. The argument is basically - too many coincidences for life to happen here, therefore god. But anyone with a sceptical brain knows that does not compute.
if i can muster the enthusiasm to watch this one i will.
there seem to be many prerequisites for life as we know it.. to name a few: order, function, compatibility, availability, sustainability, intelligence, consciousness, intuition and so on.. focusing on only one, namely order.. what are the chances of order arising spontaneously, by chance, with no creator/designer?.
i have often pondered this and recently came across a mathematical summary of the big picture:.
if every particle in the known physical universe (10^80 particles), participated in one trillion interactions (10^12 interactions) per second, for the entire 30 billion years of the universe's existence (10^18 seconds), then we would by now have covered only 10^110 permutations.. if you had only 100 components in a container, what are the chances that a blindfolded person could lay them out in order on a table?.
Your score sir!
i've been seeing a brilliant psychologist.
he has been pivotal in drawing the parallels between my jw upbringing - specifically the hypocrisy i saw as a child - and the reason i've tolerated lies and inconsistencies in my most significant adult relationship.. i've seen one other psychologist in the past.
she didn't get the issues surrounding the religion whatsoever, didn't regard that aspect of my backstory as relevant, and was of little help to me.. has anyone else seen a psychologist - whether for help with coping in the aftermath of leaving the religion, or for seemingly unrelated issues that actually turned out to be related?
I am my own psychologist, I see myself every day.
i know i'm angry.
i was curious if others are too.
i feel completely justified in my anger as well.
It's nice to see people waking up.
recent events and book reads (one suggested by cofty i believe- thank you) have lead me to the only logical and acceptable conclusion:.
there is no god.. simple logical reasoning: matter can neither me created or destroyed.
so the amount of mass in the universe is constant.
there are two views on the book of daniel.
according to the conservative jewish/christian view the book of daniel was written in mesopotamia under the babylonian conquest ca.
according to the view of modern history the book was composed ca.
Interesting stuff, thanks.
i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.
i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.
i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.
You could even have an adult conversation with your driving age son and get his take on it all, you'd have a better idea of what is actually going on then.
Wifey dont like it or wont allow it? WTF?
i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.
i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.
i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.
If you know where he lives go there, no need to give him notice, he will fob you off permanently otherwise as he knows what is coming.
leaving it up to him to contact you about it means he never will. Put it in writing if needs be and slip it in his door if no one answers, you could even txt it to him, but face to face is the preferred method for this type of thing.
Do not wait, delay, hope he will contact you. Grab this situation by the balls.
this topic is especially for all the bible scholars in the house.
the real serious ones... ...who like this type of bible discussion, though-provoking, challenging.. (please click below for the discussion covering this topic, in detail.).
jesus does not kill satan the devil!
i have a serious problem that i cannot solve on my own.
i was born-in but am only in by a thread at this point.
i quit the tms a few weeks ago and wrote a post on it.
He will be baptised before you know it, so why are you even allowing this "study" to go on with your son?
You need to go see this elder or whatever he is and tell him to back off, you need to do this when you are calm and in control and it needs to be asap.
